{"id":14397,"date":"2023-05-22T20:36:34","date_gmt":"2023-05-22T18:36:34","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.flow.de\/?p=14397"},"modified":"2026-02-09T11:48:20","modified_gmt":"2026-02-09T10:48:20","slug":"flow-podcast-organisational-consulting-for-the-fire-brigade","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.flow.de\/en\/flow-podcast-organisational-consulting-for-the-fire-brigade\/","title":{"rendered":"flow Podcast: Organisational consulting for the fire brigade"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"fusion-fullwidth fullwidth-box fusion-builder-row-1 fusion-flex-container nonhundred-percent-fullwidth non-hundred-percent-height-scrolling\" style=\"--awb-border-radius-top-left:0px;--awb-border-radius-top-right:0px;--awb-border-radius-bottom-right:0px;--awb-border-radius-bottom-left:0px;--awb-flex-wrap:wrap;\" ><div class=\"fusion-builder-row fusion-row fusion-flex-align-items-flex-start fusion-flex-content-wrap\" style=\"max-width:1144px;margin-left: calc(-4% \/ 2 );margin-right: calc(-4% \/ 2 );\"><div class=\"fusion-layout-column fusion_builder_column fusion-builder-column-0 fusion_builder_column_1_1 1_1 fusion-flex-column\" style=\"--awb-bg-size:cover;--awb-width-large:100%;--awb-margin-top-large:0px;--awb-spacing-right-large:1.92%;--awb-margin-bottom-large:0px;--awb-spacing-left-large:1.92%;--awb-width-medium:100%;--awb-spacing-right-medium:1.92%;--awb-spacing-left-medium:1.92%;--awb-width-small:100%;--awb-spacing-right-small:1.92%;--awb-spacing-left-small:1.92%;\"><div class=\"fusion-column-wrapper fusion-flex-justify-content-flex-start fusion-content-layout-column\"><div class=\"fusion-text fusion-text-1\"><p>Silke Engel reports on a special kind of fire brigade operation in this new podcast episode (German language). Listen in.<\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p>A year of organisational consulting at the Bochum fire brigade lies behind my colleague Silke Engel and I am very curious to hear what she reports about her <strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.flow.de\/en\/referenzen-2\/#probono\">pro bono<\/a><\/strong> assignment.<\/p>\n<h2>The assignment: Harmonising the control centre<\/h2>\n<p>60,000 emergency calls per year for the fire brigade and rescue service. And then, in 2021, the control centre technology of the Bochum fire brigade will be renewed during ongoing operations. What Silke tells me sounds like open-heart surgery. And as is so often the case, this challenge brings others with it, especially since Corona still determines everyday life. In this respect, IT and technical advice in the control centre is not enough. Two external consultants are to deliberately look under the surface of the water: They are to look at behaviour, (re)ways, culture and connections that have crept in unnoticed over time. This is how the project &#8220;Harmonisation of the Control Centre&#8221; comes about. For this, Silke works together with Sarah Ganter, organisational consultant and graphic recorder at akquinet Berlin.<\/p>\n<h2>A picture says more than 1000 words<\/h2>\n<p>Silke and Sarah interview firefighters at different hierarchical levels. They observe all shifts, are there live for three days and nights. They observe, ask questions, form hypotheses and begin to understand what may or may not be happening behind the scenes. Finally, they summarise their impressions and perceptions &#8211; as hypothesis poster. The effect of the pictures is enormous: the participants feel understood and accepted with their concerns. This leads to openness and subsequently to the neuralgic points of the organisation. Silke reports on these in this podcast episode.<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-14382 size-large\" src=\"https:\/\/www.flow.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/HarmonisierungLS-Blog-1024x768.jpg\" alt=\"graphic record Poster zum pro Bono Einsatz bei der Feuerwehr Bochum\" width=\"1024\" height=\"768\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.flow.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/HarmonisierungLS-Blog-200x150.jpg 200w, https:\/\/www.flow.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/HarmonisierungLS-Blog-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.flow.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/HarmonisierungLS-Blog-400x300.jpg 400w, https:\/\/www.flow.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/HarmonisierungLS-Blog-600x450.jpg 600w, https:\/\/www.flow.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/HarmonisierungLS-Blog-768x576.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.flow.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/HarmonisierungLS-Blog-800x600.jpg 800w, https:\/\/www.flow.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/HarmonisierungLS-Blog-1024x768.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.flow.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/HarmonisierungLS-Blog-1200x900.jpg 1200w, https:\/\/www.flow.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/HarmonisierungLS-Blog.jpg 1440w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/>Picture: Sarah Ganter, consultant and graphic recorder<\/p>\n<h2>Organisational consulting &#8211; in small steps to the goal<\/h2>\n<p>Because they know that such a change does not happen in a straight line, the counsellors always adapt their approach to the circumstances. In this way, they move forward in small steps and in learning loops together with the people involved, always taking surprises and difficulties into account. In the end, it is this <strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.flow.de\/en\/iterative-consulting-article\/\">iterative approach<\/a><\/strong> that leads to a very satisfactory final workshop with concrete agreements and clear responsibilities. Harmonisation is well on its way, and so Silke and Sarah are also setting out again on new consultancy projects.<\/p>\n<p>By the way, if you would like to learn more about the work of the Bochum Fire Brigade, we recommend the <strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.ardmediathek.de\/serie\/feuer-und-flamme\/staffel-1\/Y3JpZDovL3dkci5kZS9mZXVlcnVuZGZsYW1tZQ\/1\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">German TV programme Feuer &amp; Flamme on WDR<\/a><\/strong>.<\/p>\n<p>And now I hope you enjoy the very first flow-fire-brigade-report.<\/p>\n<p>Kind regards<\/p>\n<p><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.flow.de\/en\/team\/anneli-gabriel\/\">Anneli Gabriel<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>You can also find our podcast on <strong><a href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/5kJbiX50zb6yi6vj0xdQnv?si=447Co9flQpK-8vEyLjz32Q&amp;nd=1\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Spotify<\/a><\/strong> and <strong><a href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/trends-tools-thesen\/id1510758754?ign-mpt=uo%3D4\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Apple Podcasts<\/a><\/strong>.<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n<div class=\"powerpress_player\" id=\"powerpress_player_2106\"><audio class=\"wp-audio-shortcode\" id=\"audio-14397-1\" preload=\"none\" style=\"width: 100%;\" controls=\"controls\"><source type=\"audio\/mpeg\" src=\"https:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/flowconsulting\/www.flow.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/2023-05-podcast-feuerwehr-organisationsberatung.mp3?_=1\" \/><a href=\"https:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/flowconsulting\/www.flow.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/2023-05-podcast-feuerwehr-organisationsberatung.mp3\">https:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/flowconsulting\/www.flow.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/2023-05-podcast-feuerwehr-organisationsberatung.mp3<\/a><\/audio><\/div><p class=\"powerpress_links powerpress_links_mp3\" style=\"margin-bottom: 1px !important;\">Podcast: <a href=\"https:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/flowconsulting\/www.flow.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/2023-05-podcast-feuerwehr-organisationsberatung.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_pinw\" target=\"_blank\" title=\"Play in new window\" onclick=\"return powerpress_pinw('https:\/\/www.flow.de\/en\/\/?powerpress_pinw=14397-podcast');\" rel=\"nofollow\">Play in new window<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/media.blubrry.com\/flowconsulting\/www.flow.de\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/2023-05-podcast-feuerwehr-organisationsberatung.mp3\" class=\"powerpress_link_d\" title=\"Download\" rel=\"nofollow\" download=\"2023-05-podcast-feuerwehr-organisationsberatung.mp3\">Download<\/a><\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Silke Engel reports on a special kind of fire brigade operation in this new podcast episode (German language). 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